Combustible water

August 19, 2006 at 4:38 pm | | pseudoscience, stupid technology

This linked article was originally sent to the Stanford Electrocatalysis mailing list by Chris Chidsey.

The author, who claims to be a physicist, reports preliminary evidence on the formation of “HHO gas” by the electrolysis of water. The author claims that while this HHO gas is similar to a mixture of O2 and H2, it is in fact a different substance. The analyses are a joke (i. e. IR spectra of H2 and O2) and the interpretations are equally funny. The fact that this paper made it past the editor and through peer review is mind boggling. Can anyone seriously publish in the “International Journal of Hydrogen Energy” again?

Free samples of HHO gas (Aquygen) and instructions for its detection can be requested at From this website, you can watch the “inventor,” Danny Klein, brush his hand through the HHO flame to show that it is “safe” and does not burn the hand, and then miraculously cut through various materials (nevermind that he turns up the oxygen flow into the torch in between). Can this guy possibly believe that his HHO gas is real?


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  1. Figure 13 of the paper is priceless! I never knew that atoms looked like balls of twine.
    You know, absolute zero degree temperature.

    Comment by sam — August 19, 2006 #

  2. Hey, I noticed that the Aquygen Wikipedia site is being sytematically suppressed by the site administrators. I guess Wikipedia is the Man, trying to keep the public from learning the truth about a technology that will save the planet. Does ExxonMobil own Wikipedia?

    Comment by sam — August 19, 2006 #

  3. I think you might be on to something.

    Check out this company called Steorn:

    How long before ExxonMobil gets to this Wikipedia page?

    Comment by Nick — August 20, 2006 #

  4. Something tells me the impact rating for IJHE is approaching that of the Journal of Galilean Electrodynamics. And for anyone who wants a real kick, you should take a look.

    Comment by kendall — August 20, 2006 #

  5. Before making paranoid statements about Exxon, how about someone duplicating this? Is the Journal of Irreproduceable Results still being published?

    HHO gas is very real! It is commonly called “steam.”

    Comment by Michael Grace — September 6, 2006 #

  6. Check out the highly credible article on this at this URL. I did’nt believe it either until I read this.

    Comment by Jim — February 22, 2007 #

  7. jim, that’s the paper that nick liked to. i’m convinced that “International Journal of Hydrogen Energy” must be a scam journal, after this crap is published in it. do you have a bias?

    Comment by sam — February 22, 2007 #

  8. Has anyone here ever checked out the research of John Kanzius. He has actually burned salt water.
    Check this out:

    Comment by Don Jonson — October 2, 2007 #

  9. Don Jonson, I had seen that story. I believe that John (and the others who repeated his experiment) did indeed ignite the water (probably burning the hydrogen and oxygen separated by the radiowaves—an alternative to electrolysis). What people seem to forget is that one cannot get back more energy from the burning than what they put in as radiowaves. That would break the second law of Thermodynamics. If you notice, his radiofrequency generator in the video for sure requires electricity from the wall. A hell of a lot of electricity. And all he gets back for all that energy is a tiny little flame. If you could sustainably run a boat (or a car or a city or whatever) on burning electrolyzed (or radiolyzed) water, that’d be great; but that is physically impossible.
    Check out this link for more info.

    Comment by sam — October 3, 2007 #

  10. In the early 80’s, a “friend” was paid over 5 million by Shell Oil Company for the way he ran his car. It ran on water and two other additives, figure out those additives, and you’ll be a millionaire, or dead..

    Comment by cheeko — February 14, 2008 #

  11. […] here at EDS always love a good ol’ combustible-water story. I don’t know if you remember a while back, but there was a great YouTube video about […]

    Pingback by Everyday Scientist » more burning water — April 2, 2008 #

  12. Hey, the Patent for this HHO thing is under Dennis Klein of Clearwater,Fl for anyone who anyone cares to look it up.
    A great American once said,” blogs are OK, but do your own research”- JakeyJake 2008

    Comment by JakeyJake — July 1, 2008 #

  13. Hay HHO is for real. I personally make Electrolyzers all the time. The trick is to fool the computer. I had a friend come by and look at my system. I told him that he could use plates. Well he went home and made one with 14″ plates. Just for fun he lit a match. BOOM. He used a 1.5 gallon contaner. And yes he survived and also got improved mileage.

    Comment by Mike Hickmon — July 3, 2008 #

  14. look, the Klein “invention” is not: others have used electrolysis to split water and then make a torch with the gas mixture. the only difference about HHO is its name. sorry, but it’s a scam (whether Klein understands that he’s a scammer or not).

    and, as for using the novel “HHO” gas as a fuel, you can never get back more energy by burning 2H + O than you put in splitting water. thermo basics, dudes. i can conceive of a scenario where mixing H2 gas into the air-fuel mixture helps engine performance. however, i don’t trust people like Klein to demonstrate such a technology!

    Comment by sam — July 3, 2008 #

  15. […] just love writing about water hoaxes at EDS (here and here). And what about running your car on […]

    Pingback by Everyday Scientist » more HHO — August 13, 2008 #

  16. PT Barnum said it best. The HHO thing is a SCAM. Somebody above said the trick is to fool the computer. What they do is modify the car’s oxygen sensor to make the engine run lean. That’s where any gas “savings” are coming from. Gee, why didn’t Detroit figure that out? because it will damage the engine.

    These schemes are all SCAMS. And if you still believe them, would you like to buy my flux capacitor? You take the 12V output of your car’s alternator and run it through the FC: You get 2000A at 12V out! FREE energy! WooHoo!!!

    Comment by Steve SJ — September 11, 2008 #

  17. Hey steve-o, this isn’t about free energy from hydrogen, it’s about supplementing hydrogen for some gasoline. Their are a lot of electronic devices in your car that aren’t powered by free energy. They are powered by the cars battery just like an HHO generator. Maybe you could hook up the flux capacitor to the battery. Ain’t nothin free, but hydrogen is way cheaper.

    Comment by shane — September 16, 2009 #

  18. I am now building 12 of these HH0 systems running in parallel which I believe will run my car for free. Then I will get infinite miles per gallon of gas because I won’t use any. Only water.
    I am planning to patent my unique combination of these systems. Because it is special.

    Comment by Rasputin — December 22, 2009 #

  19. ;) i assume this is a joke.

    Comment by sam — December 22, 2009 #

  20. i just came up with the best idea of all: Put solar panels on the roof of the car and use the power generated to run the HHO generating cells!!! I am starting my own company to patent this and built these systems! I already have a voicemail message in to Al Gore inviting him to join my team!
    Anybody else want in on the ground floor?

    Comment by Lenny — November 4, 2010 #

  21. Have designed an excellant hho generator using open source which is delivering more than 1 lpm @less than 10A to be used in my opel corsa 1.4 engine. Test results are erratic. I do not want to use any other electronics and to disturb the existing electronics. Any ideas?

    Comment by Bob Conner — October 31, 2011 #

  22. Making water combustible at a cost less than what you get by burning the hydrogen in it (say by using solar energy) is 1000 times more dangerous (to the inventor) and illegal than making an Atom bomb.
    The moment you prove that it can be done, Oil companies and Governments will kill you.
    Such an invention will overturn the world order and wealth distribution.
    Oil will remain the cheapest and practical form of energy forever.

    Comment by raj — September 22, 2013 #

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